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Cochrane find no evidence for as required PRN medication for mental health inpatients

‘As required’ or ‘Pro re nata’ (PRN) medications are probably the most widely used intervention in mental health wards (Baker et al, 2008a). Most service users will receive extra medication during an inpatient admission. These are most likely to be given in the early days of an admission, although there is a sub-group who will have lots of extra medication throughout their admission, and it is most likely that the drugs given will be Lorazepam (a benzodiazepine), Haloperidol or Olanzapine (antipsychotics), or sleeping tablets (e.g. Zopiclone).

For some service users, access to PRN medication is a helpful way to manage distress or feelings of agitation, and of all coercive interventions used on wards PRN is one if the least restrictive, and has higher approval rating by service users. However, it is not without its problems. There is widespread concern that PRN can be abused by staff and service users (Baker et al, 2008a), and its long term use (particularly of benzodiazepines) can lead to dependency. Given the widespread use of PRN medications (millions of doses are administered every year) having a robust understanding of which drugs work best for whom is key.

A recently updated Cochrane review (Douglas-Hall et al, 2016) aimed to identify studies that compared PRN regimes with regular treatment in the management of either primary outcomes of psychotic symptoms or behavioural disturbances. Secondary outcomes included behaviour, dose of medication used, adverse events, satisfaction with care, leaving the study early, hospital outcomes and cost of care.

As required or PRN medication is extra medication given during an inpatient admission.
As required or PRN medication is extra medication given during an inpatient admission.

Method

This was an update of several previous systematic reviews by the same group, which looked for any randomised controlled trials in this area. The literature search used a strategy developed in 2013 for the previous review. Searches of MEDLINE, EMBASE, AMED, BIOSIS, CINAHL, PsycINFO, PubMed and registries of clinical trials via the Cochrane Schizophrenia Group’s Trials Register, as well as grey literature was conducted. No language, date, document type or publication status limitations were applied.

Results

  • No trials could be found to include in the review
  • 14 records were screened and excluded
  • Six studies compared one drug versus another.

Conclusion

The author’s concluded:

Although the practice of using medication ‘as required’ is common, there is currently no good evidence as to whether this is the best way of helping people when compared to them being given a regular dose of the same medication.

Forcing an unevaluated healthcare intervention on a person is ethically dubious [our bolding]. However, discussing the nature, purpose and likely effects of the ‘as required’ medication, where possible, would allow the recipient to make an informed decision. Clinical experience counts for much when treating mental illness, but the lack of data on the benefits of ‘as required’ regimens over regular regimens means that the recipient’s choice of regimen is an important consideration.

The reviewers found no evidence to support the use of PRN medication.
The reviewers found no evidence to support the use of PRN medication.

Discussion

Given that this is the fifth time this review has been run in recent years, it is not surprising that substantial new evidence has not emerged. However, it’s frustrating that a clinical intervention which is so widely used in inpatient mental health settings is not subjected to more research or rigorous evaluation. There seems to be a disconnect between the repeated undertaking of reviews, which identify a significant gap in our knowledge, and subsequent prioritisation or investment in research. Although it is not uncommon within acute mental health settings for clinicians to operate without a perceived evidence base, indeed very few interventions currently being used by mental health nurses and the broader MDT have been rigorously evaluated.

The synthesis of non randomised trial evidence would if nothing else enhance our clinical understanding of this complex clinical intervention, and this is promised for a later revision by the authors of this review. However, it remains clear that most researchers are reluctant to conduct research in the area of acute mental health. In my own experience acute mental health environments are often chaotic places to be, with staff and service users frequently moving between wards. Ethics committee often question the capacity of service users to consent to take part in research, and the nature of the disorders often makes engagement in research difficult.

Anecdotal evidence suggests that access to PRN may complicate the clinical picture, on occasions leading to dependency associated with benzodiazepines. Benzodiazepines themselves are generally considered a safe medication in the short term. However, they can cause people to act in a more disinhibited manner causing further behavioural disturbances. PRN is potentially a trigger point to more coercive interventions, particularly when requests for extra medication are denied by staff or service users choose not to accept them. This often leads to forced medication, restraint or seclusion (Bowers et al, 2012).

Adding additional antipsychotic medications to regular ones, undoubtedly leads to polypharmacy (more than one antipsychotic prescribed at a time), and doses of antipsychotics that are higher than recommended, both of which have risks associated with them.

PRN medication is one of many clinical interventions that are widely practiced without the backing of reliable research.
PRN medication is one of many clinical interventions that are widely practiced without the backing of reliable research.

Principles of good practice

Trials that clearly evaluate the effectiveness of PRN medications are urgently needed. My own research has identified some principles of good practice associated with prescribing and administering PRN medication, which emerged from a synthesis of the evidence, combined with the views of service users and clinicians (Baker et al, 2008b).

  1. Remaining focused on the service user
  2. Improving prescription quality
  3. PRN as part of the clinical management plan
  4. Evaluating the use and effect of PRN
  5. PRN requires frequent review
  6. Enhanced documentation by the Multi-disciplinary team
  7. Preventing distress when using PRN
  8. PRN as a last resort
  9. Training and education in the use of PRN for all clinical staff

Embedding these into practice is possible.

How are PRN medications used in your local hospital? Please share you experiences in the comments below.
How are PRN medications used in your local hospital? Please share you experiences in the comments below.

Links

Primary paper

Douglas-Hall P, Whicher EV. ‘As required’ medication regimens for seriously mentally ill people in hospital. Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews 2015, Issue 12. Art. No.: CD003441. DOI: 10.1002/14651858.CD003441.pub3.

Other references

Baker JA. et al. (2008a) A best-evidence synthesis review of the administration of psychotropic pro re nata (PRN) medication in in-patient mental health settings. Journal of Clinical Nursing, 17: 1122–1131. doi: 10.1111/j.1365-2702.2007.02236.x

Baker JA. et al. (2008b)  The impact of a good practice manual on professional practice associated with psychotropic PRN in acute mental health wards: An exploratory study. International Journal of Nursing Studies , Volume 45 , Issue 10 , 1403 – 1410. doi: 10.1016/j.ijnurstu.2008.01.004

Bowers, L. et al. (2012), Event sequencing of forced intramuscular medication in England. Journal of Psychiatric and Mental Health Nursing, 19: 799–806. doi: 10.1111/j.1365-2850.2011.01856.x

British National Formulary (2016) Benzodiazepines.

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    What will be people's reaction to the different article name: "Cochrane find no evidence for as required PRN medication for medical - surgical inpatients"? Would you ask yourself: what kind of medical - surgical patients are? Are we still think of all psychiatric patient as one spiritual dysfunction? You really believe that all MH patients have the nature of their decease and has nothing to do with unique pato-physiology? The are no data at all to suggest that low number of restraint and PRNs correlate with a faster recovery and well-being. Actually, just opposite (recent CAMH statistic). We force our staff to perform unrelated tasks around restraints and PRNs in most challenged for staff - client time, taking time away from the care. We spend enormous amount of money and manpower to check how well they perform these useless tasks. Would you admit yourself to the hospital for surgical / medical care knowing that you will receive a PRN medication "as a last resort" and staff will not intubate you until you will stop breath as they see intubations as something they should avoid at any cost and top manager salary depends on that number? Our real goal: well-being and fast recovery of each unique client. Too bad we missed it often.
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    Thoughts ladies? Emma Keay Jennifer Mcdowall Stephanie Plunkett
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      Stephanie Plunkett 10 years ago
      Yeah it can be seen as a quick fix which isn't ideal
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      I totally agree with the dependance if it is uses regularly then surely alternative coping strategies should be sought out (deep breathing, mindfulness etc)
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    @JohnBaker_Leeds @Mental_Elf a question that should be posted over every medication cabinet.
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    @Mental_Elf Prescribing regular meds when you think PRN is sufficient would be unethical, incl in research context. So RCT hard to do
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    @Mental_Elf PRN meds allow dynamic response to dynamic illness. I welcome this over inflexible (‘regular meds only’) treatment plans
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    @JohnBaker_Leeds @Mental_Elf I'm not a MH nurse but I do wonder why this work hasn't been done? Is it not seen as a priority?
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    What a fantastic blog, really bringing into focus what is important in mental health nursing. Although there does appear to be something missing from the principles of good practice. 10 - adequate staffing levels so 1-9 can happen
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      Thanks Lorna, we are doing a study at the moment on #safestaffing, looking for participants to interview if interested. Len Bowers & my interviews with service users work did find a link between staffing levels and PRN usage.
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    RT @Mental_Elf: Cochrane find no evidence for as required PRN medication for mental health inpatients https://t.co/VObT4mniOy
  • balanceyoursole

    balanceyoursole

    10 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Today @JohnBaker_Leeds on 'as required' medication regimens for seriously mentally ill people in hospital https://t.co/VObT…
  • jenna__bird

    jenna__bird

    10 years ago
    RT @JohnBaker_Leeds: Today's @Mental_Elf blog by me extra/PRN medication in acute wards and the current lack of evidence to support it http…
  • JoanneYounge

    JoanneYounge

    10 years ago
    RT @JohnBaker_Leeds: Today's @Mental_Elf blog by me extra/PRN medication in acute wards and the current lack of evidence to support it http…
  • Mental_Elf

    Mental_Elf

    10 years ago
    RT @JohnBaker_Leeds: Today's @Mental_Elf blog by me extra/PRN medication in acute wards and the current lack of evidence to support it http…
  • Nicky Sarpdag

    Nicky Sarpdag

    10 years ago
    My impression of the hospital I have to go to is that they are not interested in giving you time or patience. As soon as you are difficult, they give you sedatives.
    • 1 reply
    • John Baker
      John Baker 10 years ago
      Thanks for your comment Nicky, when I interview service users your view points were echoed. The whole process seemed confusing, and PRN often given as a first resort, not a last one.
  • MilitantMummy1

    MilitantMummy1

    10 years ago
    RT @JohnBaker_Leeds: Today's @Mental_Elf blog by me extra/PRN medication in acute wards and the current lack of evidence to support it http…
  • Karl_Tooher

    Karl_Tooher

    10 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Today @JohnBaker_Leeds on 'as required' medication regimens for seriously mentally ill people in hospital https://t.co/VObT…
  • Emma-Kate McDonald

    Emma-Kate McDonald

    10 years ago
    Some of that prn looks like smarties which would have no effect at all on an inpatient. But seriously I find actual PRN helpful as both an inpatient and outpatient.
    • 1 reply
    • John Baker
      John Baker 10 years ago
      PRN can be very helpful for individuals when used as part of a clear plan.
  • AliciaRidout

    AliciaRidout

    10 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Today @JohnBaker_Leeds on 'as required' medication regimens for seriously mentally ill people in hospital https://t.co/VObT…
  • RynTin85

    RynTin85

    10 years ago
    RT @JohnBaker_Leeds: Today's @Mental_Elf blog by me extra/PRN medication in acute wards and the current lack of evidence to support it http…
  • PromoteTraining

    PromoteTraining

    10 years ago
    Interesting study re: PRN Meds... https://t.co/U4Jub7fBTI
  • The Mental Elf

    The Mental Elf

    10 years ago
    The Mental Elf liked this on Facebook.
  • Will_Barker29

    Will_Barker29

    10 years ago
    Is it time we look at meds care in crisis care on wards? https://t.co/rCeBsbxgMD @WeMHNurses
  • Ian Hamilton

    Ian Hamilton

    10 years ago
    Great blog John and always useful to be reminded how little we know about the evidence for routine aspects of care. As the danger is that we assume because something is routine there must be evidence to support doing it. Your blog got me thinking about how clients find their own solutions to uncomfortable feelings or thoughts that they experience and often use a range of substances to mitigate these unwanted experiences. In effect they have their own forms of 'PRN'. A more open, honest dialogue and less punitive response by professionals to this form of self medication is needed. Would be interested in the thoughts of others....
    • 1 reply
    • John Baker
      John Baker 10 years ago
      Thanks Ian, I agree there is so much that we do that is custom and practice, without spending the time to evaluate it. Giving more ownership to service users about extra medication would undoubtedly improve things.
  • ChrysMuirhead

    ChrysMuirhead

    10 years ago
    RT @JohnBaker_Leeds: Today's @Mental_Elf blog by me extra/PRN medication in acute wards and the current lack of evidence to support it http…
  • Mental_Elf

    Mental_Elf

    10 years ago
    Today @JohnBaker_Leeds on 'as required' medication regimens for seriously mentally ill people in hospital https://t.co/VObT4mniOy #PRN
  • JJonesatcity

    JJonesatcity

    10 years ago
    RT @JohnBaker_Leeds: Today's @Mental_Elf blog by me extra/PRN medication in acute wards and the current lack of evidence to support it http…
  • felly500

    felly500

    10 years ago
    "Cochrane find no evidence for as required PRN medication for mental health inpatients https://t.co/K1N0pap31f
  • drheatherfulton

    drheatherfulton

    10 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Cochrane find no evidence for as required PRN medication for mental health inpatients https://t.co/VObT4mniOy
  • skamxpxkk

    skamxpxkk

    10 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Cochrane find no evidence for as required PRN medication for mental health inpatients https://t.co/VObT4mniOy
  • thompa101

    thompa101

    10 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Cochrane find no evidence for as required PRN medication for mental health inpatients https://t.co/VObT4mniOy
  • HVeCOP

    HVeCOP

    10 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Cochrane find no evidence for as required PRN medication for mental health inpatients https://t.co/VObT4mniOy
  • Babycatcher09

    Babycatcher09

    10 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Cochrane find no evidence for as required PRN medication for mental health inpatients https://t.co/VObT4mniOy
  • ian_hamilton_

    ian_hamilton_

    10 years ago
    @JohnBaker_Leeds @Mental_Elf good to see this issue being covered & would be useful to explore how clients use substances as a form of PRN
  • ojpriceMH

    ojpriceMH

    10 years ago
    RT @JohnBaker_Leeds: Today's @Mental_Elf blog by me extra/PRN medication in acute wards and the current lack of evidence to support it http…
  • JohnBaker_Leeds

    JohnBaker_Leeds

    10 years ago
    Today's @Mental_Elf blog by me extra/PRN medication in acute wards and the current lack of evidence to support it https://t.co/6aQULjMuMg
  • CarmelinaWilly2

    CarmelinaWilly2

    10 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Cochrane find no evidence for as required PRN medication for mental health inpatients https://t.co/VObT4mniOy
  • MencapQuality

    MencapQuality

    10 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Cochrane find no evidence for as required PRN medication for mental health inpatients https://t.co/VObT4mniOy
  • iVivekMisra

    iVivekMisra

    10 years ago
    Cochrane find no evidence for as required PRN medication for mental health… https://t.co/cwa72uuwpM #MentalHealth https://t.co/UHzcJefnSm
  • iHealthVisiting

    iHealthVisiting

    10 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Cochrane find no evidence for as required PRN medication for mental health inpatients https://t.co/VObT4mniOy
  • couragesings

    couragesings

    10 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Cochrane find no evidence for as required PRN medication for mental health inpatients https://t.co/VObT4mniOy
  • kimvie

    kimvie

    10 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Cochrane find no evidence for as required PRN medication for mental health inpatients https://t.co/VObT4mniOy