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Shared decision making in antipsychotic prescribing: the perspective of psychiatrists

Despite the growth in psychosocial interventions for people with psychosis (specifically cognitive behavioural therapy and family interventions), antipsychotic medication remains the mainstay of treatment.

Antipsychotics can lead to reductions in positive psychotic symptoms (such as auditory hallucinations), are less helpful with “negative symptoms” such as lack of motivation and apathy, and come with a whole range of unpleasant, distressing and in some rare cases, life threatening side-effects.

Antipsychotic side-effects

The older “typical” antipsychotics (such as chlorpromazine) induce a Parkinson’s disease-like movement disorder which is highly distressing and visibly stigmatising.  The newer “atypical” antipsychotics were hailed as marvel drugs that didn’t give movement disorders. However, what has emerged is that they are associated with significant weight gain and the epidemic of type 2 diabetes in people with psychotic illnesses.  In addition, antipsychotics raise prolactin levels in the body that can cause sexual dysfunction. The benefits of taking antipsychotics must outweigh the negative aspects in order for someone to be motivated and engaged with continued use.

Research shows that
Research shows that side-effects are common with both the older typical antipsychotics and the newer atypical antipsychotics

The roots of collaborative practice

The idea of collaborative practice in prescribing psychiatric medication has been around for many years and developed with the emergence of “compliance therapy” in the 1990s (Kemp and David, 1996), which recognised the importance of dialogue around medication beliefs and choices, and attempted to see prescribing decisions and medicines management as a collaborative process between prescriber and service user.  This was developed into a manualised intervention that mental health practitioners could be trained to deliver, known as Medication Management (Gray, 2004), which had shared decision-making at it’s core.

Indeed, the Recovery movement in mental health is driving the need for all mental health practitioners to work in collaboration, developing a shared understanding of the issues, and working together to solve problems.  This approach sees the person with the mental health problem as the “expert by experience” working with a mental health clinician who is the “expert by profession”.

In psychiatry, medicine adherence is still seen as fundamental to effective risk management, and when people refuse or stop taking their antipsychotics, the mental health care team may become concerned about relapse of symptoms and the risk of harm to self or others.  Therefore, non-adherence can lead to service users being coerced into taking medication, via the Mental Health Act 2007, if there is such a risk of harm.

Shared decision making in antipsychotic prescribing

This study aimed to explore the attitudes of psychiatrists towards decision making in prescribing, and use this increased understanding of current practice and the barriers that may exist to inform and improve future practice.

In shared decision making the aim should be to develop through a dialogue, a mutually agreeable explanation of the problems experienced, and agreement on the way forward to help with these problems
In shared decision making the aim should be to develop through dialogue, a mutually agreeable explanation of the problems experienced, and agreement on the way forward to help with these problems

Methods

This study chose a qualitative design to answer the question.

Sample

Psychiatrists were purposively sampled across an urban mental health service in the North of England.  They attempted to obtain a group of participants that reflected a range of clinical backgrounds, and length of experience.  The only particular inclusion criteria was that they were currently holding a post as a consultant psychiatrist (in working age mental health services).

Data collection

Individual interviews were conducted using a semi-structured schedule.  This included clinical experience, factors influencing the choice of antipsychotics, involvement of the service user in decisions, role of other professionals in the decision and a request for an illustrative case example to reflect the principles.

Data analysis

Interviews were recorded and transcribed line by line, with sections of text highlighted as reflecting decision-making processes and involvement of service users. Text was coded according to their description of the process. Themes were identified according to the framework of Charles et al.

Results

  • 27 participants responded and 1 refused to participate, leaving a total of 26 who completed the interviews
  • Most participants felt that the decision making process was one that should be shared with service users
  • Only one participant presented an alternative to medication as a treatment option for psychosis and it was noted that they were also a therapist

Three main themes came out of the analysis:

  1. Information sharing, including obtaining service user preferences (including side-effects)
  2. Deliberation
  3. Deciding on treatment options

What was interesting was that the psychiatrists expressed more immediate concern about inducing movement disorders by prescribing typical antipsychotics than the metabolic side effects of newer drugs, as the motor side effects were more visible and stigmatising.  Yet the metabolic side effects (whilst less obvious and immediate) are more likely to result in significant ill-health for service users.

The process of deliberation was described as ‘straightforward’ if the service user was in agreement with the psychiatrist’s own opinion.  The issue of ‘insight’ was raised and the psychiatrists suggested that disagreements about medication were partly down to a lack of insight and awareness into the service user’s own mental state.  The psychiatrists also presented insight as a binary concept that you either have or not.  However, insight is a difficult concept in psychiatry as what constitutes the reality of the situation is very subjective and depends on the person’s perspective.  In shared decision making the aim should be to develop through dialogue, a mutually agreeable explanation of the problems experienced, and agreement on the way forward to help with these problems.

External factors affecting the clinicians decision and service user choice were also raised.

Psychiatrists agree with shared decision making as long as the service user agrees with their view on treatment

Summary

  • Psychiatrists supported the idea of shared decision making
  • However, psychiatrists felt that shared decision making was not always possible
  • Antipsychotics were identified as the main treatment for psychosis
  • Insight was highlighted as an important issue, with lack of insight seen as a barrier to shared decisions about medication
  • A variety of external factors influenced clinicians, including other staff, acute symptoms, financial matters and risk
  • External factors that impacted on service users were expectations, beliefs and the Mental Health Act

Implications for research

The role of insight in shared decision making warrants further exploration as the participants viewed it as a binary concept whereas insight has been shown to be a more fluid multi-dimensional concept.

The numerous barriers to shared decision making in day to day practice need further investigation.

Strengths and limitations

This study provides some insight into the views and practices of a key group of clinicians involved in treatment decisions, specifically around antipsychotics. It raises important insights into the paradigm in which they are operating and highlights areas for further investigation.

This was a self selecting group of consultant psychiatrists in one area and therefore may not be representative of psychiatrists in general.

The views of service users under their care were not obtained and so the study is only presenting one side of this issue.

Consultant psychiatrists are not the only professional group involved in making prescribing decisions and this study did not explore the role of more junior psychiatrists, pharmacists or mental health nurses in the decision making process, or in dialogues about choice of medication.

Conclusions

Psychiatrists agree that shared decision making is important, but in mental health this seems to be complicated by concerns regarding acute phases of illness, lack of insight and the service user’s ability to be able to be involved, and the view that psychiatrists need to step in and make decisions on their behalf in their best interests. It’s interesting that this approach is unique to mental health and that in other long term conditions, patient autonomy is not stripped away the minute someone disagrees with the treatment plan.

Perhaps with the increased empowerment of the service user movement and greater adoption of the recovery model, people with psychosis will be able to take more control. After all, antipsychotics have stigmatising, unpleasant and at times life threatening side effects. Surely we owe it to people to have more say in what they want to take, at what dose and for how long?

Can shared-decision making ever bring true autonomy to mental health service users?
Can shared-decision making ever bring true autonomy to mental health service users?

 

Links

Shepherd A. et al Consultant psychiatrists’ experiences of and attitudes towards shared decision making in antipsychotic prescribing, a qualitative study. BMC Psychiatry 2014, 14:127 doi:10.1186/1471-244X-14-127

Gray, R., Wykes, T., Edmonds, M., Leese, M. & Gournay, K. 2004. Effect of a medication management training package for nurses on clinical outcomes for patients with schizophrenia: Cluster randomised controlled trial. The British Journal of Psychiatry, 185, 157-162.

Kemp, R., David, A.,  and Hayward, P.  (1996). Compliance Therapy: An Intervention Targeting Insight and Treatment Adherence in Psychotic Patients. Behavioural and Cognitive Psychotherapy, 24, pp 331-350. doi:10.1017/S135246580001523X.

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  • Josie Dietrich

    Josie Dietrich

    11 years ago
    Themes were identified according to the framework of Charles et al. Could you supply the reference for Charles et al and the authors of the paper? Thank you. Really liked your article.
  • TallaTrialogue

    TallaTrialogue

    11 years ago
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  • Bfd_Psych_Drugs

    Bfd_Psych_Drugs

    11 years ago
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  • TomStockmann

    TomStockmann

    11 years ago
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  • Bfd_Psych_Drugs

    Bfd_Psych_Drugs

    11 years ago
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  • borromeannot

    borromeannot

    11 years ago
    Mm~if unbiased facts made clear.Shared decision making in antipsychotic prescribing:perspective of psychiatrists http://t.co/LG056tuR0F
  • Kat_Finch

    Kat_Finch

    11 years ago
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    PsychVictim

    11 years ago
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  • Erika_Borkoles

    Erika_Borkoles

    11 years ago
    RT @ACSQHC: Interesting paper on shared decision making in mental health practice http://t.co/qyXRNDor2t by @LizHughesDD
  • theMJA

    theMJA

    11 years ago
    RT @ACSQHC: Interesting paper on shared decision making in mental health practice http://t.co/qyXRNDor2t by @LizHughesDD
  • ACSQHC

    ACSQHC

    11 years ago
    Interesting paper on shared decision making in mental health practice http://t.co/qyXRNDor2t by @LizHughesDD
  • MDX_MHandSW

    MDX_MHandSW

    11 years ago
    RT @niadla: Psychiatrsts support shared descision making but only if patient agrees with them! http://t.co/9gVmVZxe7E research article by …
  • gafolabi1

    gafolabi1

    11 years ago
    RT @pash22: "@niadla: Psychiatrists support shared descision making but only if pt agrees with them http://t.co/hSJcwwlnVN by @LizHughesDD"
  • pash22

    pash22

    11 years ago
    "@niadla: Psychiatrists support shared descision making but only if pt agrees with them http://t.co/hSJcwwlnVN by @LizHughesDD"
  • keirshiels

    keirshiels

    11 years ago
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  • MsNaughtyCheese

    MsNaughtyCheese

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  • niadla

    niadla

    11 years ago
    Psychiatrsts support shared descision making but only if patient agrees with them! http://t.co/9gVmVZxe7E research article by @LizHughesDD
  • Steph_J_Webster

    Steph_J_Webster

    11 years ago
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  • LizHughesDD

    LizHughesDD

    11 years ago
    @CPsyNetwork I can't take credit for the actual research, I just summarised it for @Mental_Elf. It's @suzypuss and @shrinking81 paper :)
  • gordonmilson

    gordonmilson

    11 years ago
    Shared decision making,as long as you agree with the Dr!Echoes of capacity issue,no 1 doubts it as long as you agree http://t.co/g2uWfIldnE
  • CPsyNetwork

    CPsyNetwork

    11 years ago
    Psychiatrsts support shared descision making but only if patient agrees with them http://t.co/EMM2zVEe4J research article by @LizHughesDD
  • DrDominicTrepel

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    11 years ago
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  • SimonSRN

    SimonSRN

    11 years ago
    Yes here it is: https://t.co/P5lrafu0uD http://t.co/9hJ38EMWGR
  • angliacounsel

    angliacounsel

    11 years ago
    Shared decision making in antipsychotic prescribing - The Mental Elf http://t.co/EUcjWvBZ9R
  • 121Therapy

    121Therapy

    11 years ago
    RT @shrinking81: Work by @suzypuss and myself very nicely summarised by @Mental_Elf - thanks woodland folk. http://t.co/Iq1ljzATTI
  • 121Therapy

    121Therapy

    11 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Great comment from @ChrysMuirhead on @LizHughesDD's #SharedDecisionMaking blog http://t.co/pdFM5xIf0n Thanks Chrys!
  • BwoodHighland

    BwoodHighland

    11 years ago
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    valeriemarriot1

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    11 years ago
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  • GoldenMindful

    GoldenMindful

    11 years ago
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    ChrysMuirhead

    11 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Great comment from @ChrysMuirhead on @LizHughesDD's #SharedDecisionMaking blog http://t.co/pdFM5xIf0n Thanks Chrys!
  • Mental_Elf

    Mental_Elf

    11 years ago
    Great comment from @ChrysMuirhead on @LizHughesDD's #SharedDecisionMaking blog http://t.co/pdFM5xIf0n Thanks Chrys!
  • Chrys Muirhead

    Chrys Muirhead

    11 years ago
    A revealing piece of research confirming the inequalities in psychiatric treatment compared to other healthcare treatment. The quote "Psychiatrists agree with shared decision making as long as the service user agrees with their view on treatment" sums it up nicely. The fact that "antipsychotics" are seen as the frontline response to altered mind states/psychoses is another barrier, in my opinion and experience, to real dialogue between patients, service users and psychiatrists. Drugs or nothing doesn't do it for me and I wanted choice of talking therapies when experiencing altered mind states. The psych drugs took away my agency, my insight and made me vulnerable. As a community activist of over 30 years being non-conformist was an asset and necessary for effective empowering of communities whereas in psychiatric settings it's called "non-compliant" and results in coercion of one sort or another. However I believe that this type of research is important, alongside user/survivor led mental health research. And in Scotland we have recently formed a national user led group to do research into crisis and acute care services, aiming to publish our research in journals and on websites. Our group includes people with lived experience who work in psychiatry, from doctor to nurse and voluntary sector activism.
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    loz57

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    DGaztambide

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    121Therapy

    11 years ago
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  • Richard Gray

    Richard Gray

    11 years ago
    Shared decision making requires people with the label "professional" to trust the decision making of the person with the label "patient". Professionals get anxious that patients will make the wrong decision and default into a paternalistic style of working (not trusting/telling people what to do). It would be very interesting to explore how effective peer facilitated shared decision making conversations would be. I'd hope that they would trust the person they were talking with and find the elusive commn ground more easily.Then start to explore in a properly collaborative way issues around treatment. To my mind shared decision making is not about agreeing it is about challenge and exploration of decisions.
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    Huwtube

    11 years ago
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    11 years ago
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    @Mental_Elf think should involve carers too when people lack capacity ...
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    DrGTalkingCures

    11 years ago
    @Mental_Elf surprised that insight seen as binary!My experience is completely the opposite& people often have partial insight.
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  • Richard Gray

    Richard Gray

    11 years ago
    Mental health professionals (especially psychiatrists) are obsessed by insight and adherence but it's a red herring. Insight implies agreement with a medical construction of mental illness (as a brain disease). Talk to most people who are prescribed antipsychotic medication and the describe mix of positives and negatives about taking antipsychotic medication. The positives are often not about experiencing less mental illness (the voices are better) but are more indirect and personally meaningful (I'm getting on better with my family and friends). Conversations about medication, I believe, need to be more subtle and sophisticated to help people explore how medication effects them. Ultimately if the bad things about pills outweighs the good people will stop, that's not lack of insight it's common sense...
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    @Mental_Elf Come on, of course not! cant give over power and control MHS workers love and always been accustomed to!!
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    11 years ago
    Resisting psych meds: insight or folly? Probably not a debate that can be solved in 140 characters or less @AlisonF101 @Mental_Elf
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    LiesvandenAssum

    11 years ago
    RT @Sectioned_: Shared decision-making http://t.co/JfzilXJrU1 The only branch of medicine where disagreeing with your physician means you l…
  • MHfightsback

    MHfightsback

    11 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Mental health service users! What d'you think of this study about #SharedDecisionMaking in antipsychotic prescribing? http:…
  • MHfightsback

    MHfightsback

    11 years ago
    RT @Sectioned_: Shared decision-making http://t.co/JfzilXJrU1 The only branch of medicine where disagreeing with your physician means you l…
  • AlisonF101

    AlisonF101

    11 years ago
    @Mental_Elf It might be that our exceptional insight is what leads us to resist medication
  • Samhill121212

    Samhill121212

    11 years ago
    @PsychVictim @Mental_Elf There's a link between MH service users forced 2accept they r ill,+ recovery from mental distress,2nd= recoverable
  • Kirsten Corden

    Kirsten Corden

    11 years ago
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    11 years ago
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    Hampshire Healthcare Library Service

    11 years ago
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  • PsychVictim

    PsychVictim

    11 years ago
    @Mental_Elf Suggest a further study from the service users' perspective. #mentalhealth #mhuk #lackofinsight
  • D10Coff

    D10Coff

    11 years ago
    @ClinpsychLucy @Mental_Elf when SU's make decisions on meds they are considered to lack insight, rationality seen to be highly specific
  • Sectioned_

    Sectioned_

    11 years ago
    Shared decision-making http://t.co/JfzilXJrU1 The only branch of medicine where disagreeing with your physician means you lack insight.
  • THEAGENTAPSLEY

    THEAGENTAPSLEY

    11 years ago
    -> Patient is asked, Do you now think that people at the church persecuted you ? A 'Yes' = continued detention, @ClinpsychLucy @Mental_Elf
  • PsychVictim

    PsychVictim

    11 years ago
    RT @ClinpsychLucy: Via @Mental_Elf Psychiatrists support shared decisions on medication - as long as SU has 'insight' ie agrees w them http…
  • PsychVictim

    PsychVictim

    11 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Psychiatrists view the service user's lack of insight as the main barrier to shared decisions about medication http://t.co/…
  • THEAGENTAPSLEY

    THEAGENTAPSLEY

    11 years ago
    Psychiatrists *don't* know what is in patients' heads to judge insight, @ClinpsychLucy @Mental_Elf - some patients soon learn to feign. ->
  • BeyondMeds

    BeyondMeds

    11 years ago
    @ClinpsychLucy @Mental_Elf we'd not see all the decompensation upon withdrawal
  • BeyondMeds

    BeyondMeds

    11 years ago
    @ClinpsychLucy @Mental_Elf if people could speak honestly and MDs were trained to actually know how to do it and offer alternatives
  • BeyondMeds

    BeyondMeds

    11 years ago
    @ClinpsychLucy @Mental_Elf dangerous climate is created when folks can't speak honestly about coming off. That's how cold-turkey happens
  • ClinpsychLucy

    ClinpsychLucy

    11 years ago
    Only 1 psychiatrist in this study saw not taking meds as an option. But they support shared decisions on meds?? http://t.co/v5Tam7dMCk”
  • cgblanch1

    cgblanch1

    11 years ago
    Los psiquiatras están de acuerdo con compartir la toma de decisiones... si el usuario comparte su punto de vista... http://t.co/buyZQZc1o6
  • BeyondMeds

    BeyondMeds

    11 years ago
    @ClinpsychLucy @Mental_Elf that made me laugh...gotta go read it now
  • BeyondMeds

    BeyondMeds

    11 years ago
    RT @ClinpsychLucy: Via @Mental_Elf Psychiatrists support shared decisions on medication - as long as SU has 'insight' ie agrees w them http…
  • ClinpsychLucy

    ClinpsychLucy

    11 years ago
    Via @Mental_Elf Psychiatrists support shared decisions on medication - as long as SU has 'insight' ie agrees w them http://t.co/v5Tam7dMCk
  • DrGertya

    DrGertya

    11 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Study says that psychiatrists agree w/ shared decision making, as long as service user agrees w/ their treatment http://t.c…
  • NigelPetra

    NigelPetra

    11 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Psychiatrists view the service user's lack of insight as the main barrier to shared decisions about medication http://t.co/…
  • tylergammon22

    tylergammon22

    11 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Psychiatrists view the service user's lack of insight as the main barrier to shared decisions about medication http://t.co/…
  • B_McT

    B_McT

    11 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Study says that psychiatrists agree w/ shared decision making, as long as service user agrees w/ their treatment http://t.c…
  • helenlp

    helenlp

    11 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Psychiatrists view the service user's lack of insight as the main barrier to shared decisions about medication http://t.co/…
  • tdalton167

    tdalton167

    11 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Mental health service users! What d'you think of this study about #SharedDecisionMaking in antipsychotic prescribing? http:…
  • AddictionNotDis

    AddictionNotDis

    11 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Psychiatrists view the service user's lack of insight as the main barrier to shared decisions about medication http://t.co/…
  • Mental_Elf

    Mental_Elf

    11 years ago
    Psychiatrists view the service user's lack of insight as the main barrier to shared decisions about medication http://t.co/sC5vqnYCQf
  • SimonSRN

    SimonSRN

    11 years ago
    Excellent summary on an important issue. You are right to identify the complex nature of insight as worthy of more research and far from a binary concept. Some evidence suggests for example that 'insight' combined with high levels of internalised stigma can hinder recovery so we need to be cautious about it as a construct. I really like the simple approach promoted in the States by Pat Deegan and others called common ground where people express their views on medication (with a peer supporter) prior to the potentially stressful and short consultation.
  • AlexBThomson

    AlexBThomson

    11 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Shared decision making in antipsychotic prescribing: the perspective of psychiatrists http://t.co/sC5vqnYCQf
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    rowrowxo

    11 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Shared decision making in antipsychotic prescribing: the perspective of psychiatrists http://t.co/sC5vqnYCQf
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    BrightonRSS

    11 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Shared decision making in antipsychotic prescribing: the perspective of psychiatrists http://t.co/sC5vqnYCQf
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    Andrea Brennan

    11 years ago
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  • shrinking81

    shrinking81

    11 years ago
    @suzypuss @Mental_Elf Thanks for the nice summary. Agree - need more work with SUs and observation of consultations.
  • BiggerPictureNM

    BiggerPictureNM

    11 years ago
    RT @LizHughesDD: My latest @Mental_Elf blog on psychiatrist's views of shared decision making for anti-psychotics http://t.co/xC0T5rmaXK
  • MattGrahamKent

    MattGrahamKent

    11 years ago
    Shared decision making in antipsychotic prescribing: the perspective of psychiatrists http://t.co/fJAN4DuqGt
  • CMGCare_Support

    CMGCare_Support

    11 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Shared decision making in antipsychotic prescribing: the perspective of psychiatrists http://t.co/sC5vqnYCQf
  • suzypuss

    suzypuss

    11 years ago
    @Mental_Elf @shrinking81 excellent blog thanks. We need more research into SUs perspectives into how decisions made and what 'insight' is.
  • xtraspirit

    xtraspirit

    11 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Hi @shrinking81 @suzypuss Pls share yr thoughts on @LizHughesDD's blog about yr SDM & antipsychotic prescribing study http:…
  • DrennanGerard

    DrennanGerard

    11 years ago
    RT @LizHughesDD: My latest @Mental_Elf blog on psychiatrist's views of shared decision making for anti-psychotics http://t.co/xC0T5rmaXK
  • 121Therapy

    121Therapy

    11 years ago
    RT @LizHughesDD: My latest @Mental_Elf blog on psychiatrist's views of shared decision making for anti-psychotics http://t.co/xC0T5rmaXK
  • AddictionNotDis

    AddictionNotDis

    11 years ago
    RT @LizHughesDD: My latest @Mental_Elf blog on psychiatrist's views of shared decision making for anti-psychotics http://t.co/xC0T5rmaXK
  • JaneStreetPPAD

    JaneStreetPPAD

    11 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Shared decision making in antipsychotic prescribing: the perspective of psychiatrists http://t.co/sC5vqnYCQf
  • Mental_Elf

    Mental_Elf

    11 years ago
    RT @LizHughesDD: My latest @Mental_Elf blog on psychiatrist's views of shared decision making for anti-psychotics http://t.co/xC0T5rmaXK
  • StephSpillman

    StephSpillman

    11 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Shared decision making in antipsychotic prescribing: the perspective of psychiatrists http://t.co/sC5vqnYCQf
  • suzypuss

    suzypuss

    11 years ago
    “@Mental_Elf: Shared decision making in antipsychotic prescribing: the perspective of psychiatrists http://t.co/MwN7NiUPua” @shrinking81
  • LizHughesDD

    LizHughesDD

    11 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Shared decision making in antipsychotic prescribing: the perspective of psychiatrists http://t.co/sC5vqnYCQf
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    3ElmsRoad

    11 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Shared decision making in antipsychotic prescribing: the perspective of psychiatrists http://t.co/sC5vqnYCQf
  • DrennanGerard

    DrennanGerard

    11 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Shared decision making in antipsychotic prescribing: the perspective of psychiatrists http://t.co/sC5vqnYCQf
  • LizHughesDD

    LizHughesDD

    11 years ago
    My latest @Mental_Elf blog on psychiatrist's views of shared decision making for anti-psychotics http://t.co/xC0T5rmaXK
  • emjohnston1

    emjohnston1

    11 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Shared decision making in antipsychotic prescribing: the perspective of psychiatrists http://t.co/sC5vqnYCQf
  • MaryP58

    MaryP58

    11 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Shared decision making in antipsychotic prescribing: the perspective of psychiatrists http://t.co/sC5vqnYCQf
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    neil_me

    11 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Shared decision making in antipsychotic prescribing: the perspective of psychiatrists http://t.co/sC5vqnYCQf
  • 121Therapy

    121Therapy

    11 years ago
    RT @Mental_Elf: Shared decision making in antipsychotic prescribing: the perspective of psychiatrists http://t.co/sC5vqnYCQf